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Grinder
27 July 2004, 15:55
By Kathleen T. Rhem
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, July 27, 2004 - U.S. and Korean officials have agreed on a plan to
move all 8,000 American troops out of Seoul and its suburbs by December 2008.
The forces will be relocated to south of the Han River in the Pyongtaek area,
roughly 50 miles south of Seoul.

Officials also agreed to move the U.S. Army's 2nd Infantry Division from its
existing bases near the Demilitarized Zone to the same area south of Seoul. The
timeline for this move has yet to be worked out, DoD officials said.

American and South Korean officials announced the upcoming changes in a joint
press conference at the State Department's Foreign Press Center here July 23.
The officials briefed the press following the 10th round of the Future of the
Alliance talks, held here last week.

"The important message of the day today is that the alliance is well," said
Richard Lawless, deputy undersecretary of defense for Asia Pacific affairs.
"It's working toward its goals; it's progressing."

The officials gave several reasons for the shift in forces. Consolidating far-
flung forces on fewer bases will allow greater efficiency in land use and
personnel, Evans Revere, a U.S. State Department expert on Asian affairs, said.

He also noted the move will free up "some very valuable land" for use by Korean
municipalities. He said he hopes this will enhance Korean public support for
continued U.S. military presence on the peninsula.

Lawless explained that areas surrounding U.S. facilities north of the Han River
have become increasingly urbanized and those bases now cause "discomfort" to
the local population. "(U.S. bases) encroach upon the daily lives of the Korean
people," he said, noting the upcoming move is "very much driven by our desire
to become a better partner there."

Officials from both countries have been working together for some time to
finalize plans to move 2nd Infantry Division troops south from the DMZ region.
During Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's visit to South Korea in November
2003, officials explained the U.S. government has been investing in enhanced
weapons systems and command-and-control systems to allow more efficient
deployment of forces in Korea.

"Whatever adjustments we may make will reflect the new technologies that are
available, the new capabilities, and they will strengthen our ability to deter,
and if necessary, defeat any aggression against allies such as South Korea,"
Rumsfeld said Nov. 18, 2003, in Seoul.

The Sharaffe
28 July 2004, 03:36
Yeah, relocated to Iraq

AirborneAli
28 July 2004, 09:07
Just trade one shitty country for another...hooray!

MansonTheTool
28 July 2004, 20:01
lol.

slick
29 July 2004, 18:10
Yeah, Korea might not be paradise, but I had fun during my 13 months there (even met my fiancee during my tour). Considering the clubs, shopping, looking forward to COB, actually getting the same days off as CONUS troops, and getting most major Korean holidays off I'd rather spend three years on the ROK then three months, let alone a year, in Iraq (how many Iraqi holidays do CENTCOM soldiers get off?) especially since I went there already. Doesn't hurt that your DEROS in Korea is guranteed (not counting 2/2 ID soldiers) and you get 30 days guranteed leave versus you having no real idea when you'll leave Iraq and a measly 14 days of R@R from Iraq IF they have space for you. Even troops from Vietnam could get 30 days if they extended.

Sammy Sandbag
29 July 2004, 19:20
Read the article guys, it isn't about moving troops to Iraq. It's about relocating them to south of Seoul and off of the DMZ. But yes there are starting to rotate some to Iraq. Sharaffe, when are you headed to the sandbox?

slick
30 July 2004, 01:11
We know it's not about moving them to Iraq, they're just being sarcastic because it seems like everyone and their mama is being sent there reguardless of whether or not CENTCOM was supposed to be their area of operation. People in Hawaii, Third Core, and the Pacific region usually don't see the desert but Iraq changed that to the point that most people don't think we would have enough forces on standby to respond to a North Korean invasion. Not to mention the major exodus of troops in units returning from Iraq after their 90 days are up.

Sammy Sandbag
30 July 2004, 08:25
III Corps not see the desert? Guess that was my imagination last time they were there. That's their main mission, hence all the time playing around at NTC. Hawaii, Lewis, and Korea are I Corps.

The Sharaffe
30 July 2004, 12:00
Can you put "Top Secret" on the top and bottom of the web site, and restrict access, cause that's the only way I can say when and if I'm going

The Sharaffe
30 July 2004, 12:02
Either way, 2ID is now a deplyable Division, they've already sent a Brigade plus over

slick
30 July 2004, 12:37
I stand corrected about Third Corp, but when I was in Fort Riley from April 1999 to October 2001 the only place I deployed to was to NTC once (maybe I got lucky). Our unit told us we were DRB for if something popped off in Korea but we didn't even think about the Middle East until 9/11. We had a few companies and one battery go to Kuwait for four months but other than that they had 1/16 IN rotate to Bosnia and some units rotate for one month Korea tours. My first deployment was to OIF with 3rd ID a month after I came back from Korea and Fort Riley finally became rapid deployment with 1/1 ID in Iraq now and 3/1 AD getting ready to go back to Iraq with 3rd ID this winter even though they only been back since April. Wonder how many people will reenlist in that brigade?

Sammy Sandbag
30 July 2004, 14:42
What unit at Riley were you in though? They've got a cluster of different units there. Of course much of it has changed up, especially around '99.

slick
30 July 2004, 15:14
B 1/5 FA, 1/1 ID

Sammy Sandbag
30 July 2004, 15:24
Ah, Hamilton's Own. Well see 1ID falls under V Corps, not III Corps.

slick
2 August 2004, 10:29
That may be true now since they're in Iraq but when we were in garrison we answered to Third Corps; had then-LTG LaPorte's mug posted right next to the CG of Fort Riley. We didn't even start posting the 1 ID CG's photo until a few months before I left Riley.

The Sharaffe
16 November 2004, 08:22
You buy me drinkie?

natedogg42
16 November 2004, 12:23
suckie suckie?

The Sharaffe
23 November 2004, 05:55
I walked into a bar in the "ville" and saw one of my most redneck of soldiers with a half naked drinky girl on his lap, sloshed out of his mind scream in a thick SC accent "DRINKY GIRLS ARE FOR LOVIN, SIR!!"

That is what I shall remember about Korea