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Sammy Sandbag
8 December 2010, 19:43
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhB_KpHAEqU&feature=player_embedded

Un4given
8 December 2010, 21:48
It got alright towards the end, but that was a long, dry video. Sammy, you've failed. Maybe if it were shorter with more punch lines.

Sammy Sandbag
8 December 2010, 22:26
I didn't make it, just thought it was semi-humorous. Based on the dialog, sounds like a Ft. Drum AH/OH captain made it. The forums are way too dead, trying to spark something.

rkam98
8 December 2010, 23:01
I thought it was hilarious. I have seen several of these types of videos related to the Legal Profession, Interesting to see one about the Army though. I think the CPT was a bit dated/overly optimistic about the private sector alternative though.

Sammy Sandbag
8 December 2010, 23:16
In regards to promotions perhaps, but not in personal responsibility and off-duty (outside the workplace) misconduct and it's ramifications. I don't think the manager at a factory is worried about how one of his workers had a fight with his 18yr old wife and she turned off his cellphone and won't let him back in the house after he got drunk and posted something stupid on facebook. But somehow that is a commander's problem.

Un4given
9 December 2010, 09:04
I didn't make it, just thought it was semi-humorous. Based on the dialog, sounds like a Ft. Drum AH/OH captain made it. The forums are way too dead, trying to spark something.Yeah, I didn't think you made it, just criticizing it. Semi-humorous is probably a good way to describe it.


In regards to promotions perhaps, but not in personal responsibility and off-duty (outside the workplace) misconduct and it's ramifications. I don't think the manager at a factory is worried about how one of his workers had a fight with his 18yr old wife and she turned off his cellphone and won't let him back in the house after he got drunk and posted something stupid on facebook. But somehow that is a commander's problem.
Aint that the truth, though. Maybe we should take a back seat approach and let civil authorities handle more matters. Get drunk and fight? Go to jail. See ya when I see ya and you ain't getting paid.

Sammy Sandbag
9 December 2010, 09:11
Or how about this: a USMA cadet isn't allowed to be married until graduation (4-5 years with prep school.) Yet an 17 year old E-1 straight out of high school who doesn't get paid crap goes out and does it, all the time. Then he lives off post, or perhaps quarters. Either way he's probably in a situation he wasn't ready for and can't afford. The pay grades of E-1 to E-4 weren't designed to raise a family, yet we keep throwing more programs, training, time, and effort at those situations. Just an idea.

Sassy05
14 December 2010, 12:48
I think the video is hilarious. I posted it on my facebook.

Sammy, there are actually good reasons why USMA cadets can't have dependents. You are basically away from home for four years. Even your summers are taken away. The thought process behind it is that you cannot really provide for anyone while you are there. Now, I also don't think young PVTs should be married either, but it's really apples and oranges.

FullMetalJacket
14 December 2010, 13:49
This is PERFECT!! I posted it on my facebook as well. It's so true; the Army is becoming intolerably maternal. EO/POSH is a serious thing and no joke, but I feel like we're at the point where we have to walk on eggshells because it's so sensitive. We do risk assessments for the most mundane things, and DUIs are outta control. As a lieutenant in garrison, I got a middle-of-the-night phone call at LEAST once a week to pick up Joe from jail. It's also very true about the absurd extent to which Joe will knock up and/or marry some random chick and find that the relationship is quite doomed early on. Sometimes I think a lot of young Soldiers are in a rush to get married just so they can move out of the barracks and won't have to eat every meal at the chow hall, more than they're actually in love with the other person. It's not true of everyone, but it's a behavior I've seen plenty of.

It's kind of the dark side of Army leadership, having to function as full-time babysitters more than we get to feel like we are truly in the profession of arms. And you give the safety briefs every weekend: "Don't drink and drive, don't do drugs, don't kick the dog, don't beat your spouse, don't eat your babies," and some dumb mofos ALWAYS do it anyway.

Un4given
14 December 2010, 19:54
Here's what we did in my last company... For the DUIs and random arrests the officers and 1SG in our company had a rotating roster of who had to pick up each weekend night. If it was your night to be on stand by you couldn't get drunk in case you had to pick up Joes. Doesn't mean you couldn't go out and have fun and do whatever, but if someone was arrested it was your job to get them. It was the fair way to do it and with 6 of us in the rotation you would get the detail once a month.

Sassy05
15 December 2010, 09:07
I don't think you should have to pick up DUI Soldiers in the middle of the night. I'm really not sure as to how General/Colonel/whoever came to that decision, but I think they ought to stay there until I have the time to get them. If it's during the week, after I wake up, do PT, shower, change, then I'll go get them. On the weekend, if I'm in the town, I'll get them when I feel like getting out of bed the next morning. I really don't understand why leaders and whoever else have to endure punishment of sorts when Soldiers do dumb shit. Everyone has a taxi program, everyone gives out alert rosters, we give the same lame safety briefs every week, so if a Soldier still decides to drink and drive, maybe they should hang out in jail or at the MP station for a few hours.

Rumple_Manskin
15 December 2010, 11:58
I don't think you should have to pick up DUI Soldiers in the middle of the night. I'm really not sure as to how General/Colonel/whoever came to that decision, but I think they ought to stay there until I have the time to get them. If it's during the week, after I wake up, do PT, shower, change, then I'll go get them. On the weekend, if I'm in the town, I'll get them when I feel like getting out of bed the next morning. I really don't understand why leaders and whoever else have to endure punishment of sorts when Soldiers do dumb shit. Everyone has a taxi program, everyone gives out alert rosters, we give the same lame safety briefs every week, so if a Soldier still decides to drink and drive, maybe they should hang out in jail or at the MP station for a few hours.

Even though I have no experience in the matter, I completely agree. If soldiers are going to do stupid shit and get themselves arrested, they should at least have to deal with the inconvenience of hanging around the jail for a little while. By bailing them out in the middle of the night, it's almost like positively reinforcing them or showing them that what they did is ok.