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chesshirekat
15 June 2005, 21:29
Apparently Nurses have the option to go a year early because they have so many clinicals in their junior year. So, this fall, instead of being a MSII I'll be a MSIII. I just found out about it this week. I think it's been around for awhile and at some schools it's the standard, but my school hasn't had a nurse in 15 years... so they are a little out of date on the whole nurse thing. Oh well, I don't care, camp won't be that bad and I'll be done a year early. yay.

Aries
15 June 2005, 21:30
done a year early? try being an MSV instead of an MSII. welcome back slut

Associate289
15 June 2005, 21:36
depending on your cadre, they may either let you take your senior year off, or make you be an MSIV all over again

Aries
15 June 2005, 21:37
senior year off? sure as fuck not down here. MSV bitch.. i mean slut

chesshirekat
15 June 2005, 21:42
Well, like I said, my cadre has never dealt with a nurse. I'm just as lost as they are. What I meant by finished a year early, was just that, I'm finished with CAMP a year earlier than I expected. My cadre is cool, they aren't going to treat me like an MSII even if I am. They aren't going to make me train like I am preparing for camp. I'll probably help run labs and just take the MS 201 and 202 classes. And thanks for the nice welcome.

chesshirekat
15 June 2005, 21:46
I could be an MSV or an MSII... depends on how they handle it. MSV's don't do anything around here, they don't even come to labs. So, either way, I don't really care.

Associate289
15 June 2005, 21:48
im confused, they AREN'T gonna train you for camp, even though you ARE going?

your IVs dont show up to lab? shit if I did that, I wouldve never gotten commissioned...

Aries
15 June 2005, 22:10
i think the little plebe.. err.. freshman. has no idea what the fuck she is talking about. i hope you are at least cute.

killernurse
15 June 2005, 23:21
I could be an MSV or an MSII... depends on how they handle it. MSV's don't do anything around here, they don't even come to labs. So, either way, I don't really care.Hey Kat- good to see you back again! Here's the breakdown on the nurse program- if you or anyone else have questions on this shoot 'em my way and if I can't answer them I know who can.

I'm part of the 'old school' version of the nursing program. That means that I followed the traditional progression- freshman MSI, soph MSII, jr MSIII, and I go to camp this summer, come back for my IV in the fall. Benefits? First is that I never felt rushed through the program. Not that it's terribly tough, but wait til we hit the new version. Another thing is I was able to stay with my class- you end up pretty close to some of those people. It's also nice to see people who AREN'T NURSES once in a while... which can be sadly lacking your junior year. The major disadvantage is that it kicks your ever-lovin' tailfeathers your junior year. You hit the heavy clinicals, nasty paperwork, research projects, in-depth nursing classes with all sorts of care maps and critical pathways and other things to fill your brain... then on top of a 7a clinical you're trying to balance labs/pt/whatever at 0530, learning battle drills, going through your yellow cards, tracking down the IDIOT in your squad who keeps showing up late/can't figure out how to shave, and going to all sorts of MSIII training (FTX's, extra lnav, etc). If your nursing department or ROTC isn't understanding, it can make it even more difficult. Both have been pretty good- ROTC adjusts class times and lets us miss when we have to get to clinicals (but we still miss the content), and nursing doesn't freak out when we're constantly 10-20 minutes late for our 800 lecture (still miss the content).

The year under me started with a new program, being experimented with at a number of 'Partnership in Nursing Education' Schools...i.e. those with a specific nurse mission. What they do is during your freshman year fall semester you take all the MSI classes; spring semester you are an MSII and do all those classes. Your sophomore year you join the MSIII class (those who had a year on you previously) and go through that at a normal pace... just a year earlier. After your soph year you go to camp, come back and have your junior year off minus an independent study and a PT test each semester- scholarship and stipend continue through this year. Your senior year you rejoin your class as an MSIV and do all that jazz.

Benefits? You don't get as bored your first year because it's going at a slightly quicker pace. Your junior year is free to concentrate on nursing, so there's a lower fail-out rate (had been a big problem- lost a lot of nurses that way). The major disadvantages are that you are a little bit behind the power curve on the experience side when you become an MSIII- (you've seen some of the stuff one time where the other IIIs have seen it for two years), and you're separated from your ROTC class until your senior year, at which point you're all supposed to meld together again.

I think this version is better in some respects, but as far as the washout rate... well I think it ups it among the freshman because they flat-out get scared. It's a lot quickly and they're prepping for camp from day 1. When you're just starting you don't see how much easier it will make your life 2-3 years down the road- you see 'damn- three months ago I was cheering on the sidelines, laughing with friends, etc. and now they want me to sign on this line, scream hooah all the time, and go off to some crawl-in-the-woods torture camp...'

All things being equal which would I do? The new one. However, had I done that I wouldn't have been able to take other leadership opportunities that I did and I wouldn't trade those for anything. Think it through...I don't remember if your school admits nurses freshman or junior year... if it's junior, for the love of pete take your MSIII year sophomore.

Oh, and Aries she's a doll.

Associate289
15 June 2005, 23:21
yeah I agree, and who are your crackhead cadre that let MSII's teach labs? Unless you have prior service experience, your ass needs to be learning

chesshirekat
15 June 2005, 23:40
im confused, they AREN'T gonna train you for camp, even though you ARE going?

your IVs dont show up to lab? shit if I did that, I wouldve never gotten commissioned...

To clear that up. My cadre told me that after I do my MSIII year instead of being a MSII (basically I skip that year) I could either go back and be an MSII or be a 2 year senior.

The MSIV's run the labs, the "MSV's" don't have to do anything. They just hang out until they get commissioned.

chesshirekat
15 June 2005, 23:46
i think the little plebe.. err.. freshman. has no idea what the fuck she is talking about. i hope you are at least cute.

Ok, well first of all, I would be a MSIII anyways, but I decided to be a 2 year freshmen instead of a 2 year senior. I have had 3 semesters of rotc already. I changed my major over christmas 03 from social studies to nursing and decided to do rotc. Our nursing program only admits classes in the fall, so I didn't have enough time to get in my year of prereq's by fall 04. So I began taking rotc (MS 102) classes my 2nd semester of my freshmen year. So since I would be a freshmen in the nursing program until fall 05 I decided to stay a freshmen in rotc until then as well so it would coincide with my nursing program. The class I began with will be III's in the fall. This probably doesn't make much sense to you, but that's how it is. So basically, I'm 1 semester short of being a III anyway.

chesshirekat
15 June 2005, 23:51
Hey thanks for posting all that info KN!

Cerebroden
16 June 2005, 09:23
shit all the nurses here have it easy, their four year, they all found ways to get out of almost everything

Aries
16 June 2005, 09:24
almost everything? when the fuck did you see a nurse around anything other than the occasional FTX or Lab taking pictures.

they simply said "I am a nurse" when asked why they werent at anything.

killernurse
16 June 2005, 10:12
worst part, guys? might even be legit. at least here for 2nd semester you work whenever your nurse does- if it overlaps any ROTC, you're at clinicals because otherwise you don't graduate. Some of our nurses were there more often than others, but all based on the nurse's schedule. and yeah, already put in a request to have the ID info removed...

Aries
16 June 2005, 10:15
yeah.. but our nurses used it for everything. lab, pt, class. and most of them weren't valid. most of the time they wanted to go home and go to sleep. shit, they didnt even wear their uniform and said "cuz im a nurse"

killernurse
16 June 2005, 10:18
alright, that goes into the realm of complete and utter bs... (the nurses like that in our bn have pretty much been weeded out- either self or gov't)

we show for everything possible- just sometimes not possible. your cadre bought it? wow...

HerdROTC
16 June 2005, 10:18
I guess we have the one of the few future nurses that aren't total shit bags. Our nurse is probably one of the most consistent PT'ers in the program. I think I've talked about this before, but he's dropped about 60lbs this year alone along with increasing his PT by over 100pts. Hell, he's even Ranger Challenge. Sure, he might be a little dorky at times, but hell, he can pull his own weight in the Batt. so I frankly don't give a damn. He's gonna add a ton to the program in the next couple years.

Aries
16 June 2005, 10:21
yeah. not all nurses are bad. my LB is a nurse, and although she just got done with her II year, hopefully she won't fall into the realm of shitbag.

and KN, it wasn't the cadre buying it. it was our old LTC just wanting to meet mission on nurses being commissioned. pretty much let them do whatever they wanted as long as they got their bar. he didnt care if they could do any of the shit that was asked of them as army officers.

killernurse
16 June 2005, 10:26
what year is he? if it's in the first two years it's still the easy stuff (time-wise) and schedules are fairly predictable.

our nurses pull their weight- of our MSIII nurses 5/9 of us were 300+, the rest were around the 280s. many do P/R, Ranger Challenge, help plan events/fun stuff, are involved in nursing senate, student's union, etc. Even with all that-very motivated people- we still lack the ability to bilocate. ROTC's #1 thing is always 'get your degree'. We can't do that due to restrictions that are flat-out a part of the requirements... just the way it is.

chesshirekat
16 June 2005, 17:37
what year is he? if it's in the first two years it's still the easy stuff (time-wise) and schedules are fairly predictable.

our nurses pull their weight- of our MSIII nurses 5/9 of us were 300+, the rest were around the 280s. many do P/R, Ranger Challenge, help plan events/fun stuff, are involved in nursing senate, student's union, etc. Even with all that-very motivated people- we still lack the ability to bilocate. ROTC's #1 thing is always 'get your degree'. We can't do that due to restrictions that are flat-out a part of the requirements... just the way it is.

Agreed. I have never slacked and I don't plan to ever slack. I love rotc and the opportunities it has offered me. If I have a class or lab that overlaps part of an FTX, I go to the class, but I show up to the FTX' before and after I'm done (Our FTX's are usually at the lake here). I pull my own weight, I am always aware of what's going on at labs. My cadre has promised me an Airborne slot between my Junior and Senior year since I don't have camp. We'll have to see how that works out. Just because your guys' nurses suck, doesn't mean they all do.

CDT_TEX
17 June 2005, 07:37
I can attest to that statement Aries. Nursing major is a "get out of everything free" card in the game of ROTCopoly.

---TEX

chesshirekat
17 June 2005, 08:16
I can attest to that statement Aries. Nursing major is a "get out of everything free" card in the game of ROTCopoly.

---TEX

If it's so easy, why aren't you a nursing major? I wouldn't go around talking about how they get out of everything b/c I would go as far to say that atleast 95% of the time, their "excuses" are legitimate. Academics come first. If you don't graduate you don't get commissioned. Sure, there are always lazy people and they probably won't be successful in rotc or in nursing for that matter. Sorry if it bothers you that nurses get out of things that you don't, but it is a very difficult, time consuming major, more so than probably any other major.ROTC knows that and that's why they are allowed to "get out of everything".

Aries
17 June 2005, 08:56
hey slut.. i am not trying to say that there arent some legitimate nurses out there. KN busts her ass to do what she can, and her battalion actually changes its lab so that the nurses can be there. the problem here is that 95% of the time, the nurses have bullshit excuses. like they are in the lounge, in workout clothes, saying that they arent gonna go to class, lab, or anything. or sleep in and miss PT. whats the reason? "I am a nurse".

all hormones and estrogen aside (Dylans uncle said that to his aunt this weekend cuz she was going crazy)... relax, get laid, and calm down ok?

Associate289
17 June 2005, 09:40
it boils down to the schools cadre. if they dont give a shit, cadets being cadets (the majority of them) wont give a shit either and dont show up. if cadre does give a shit, and follows up on nurses reasons (labs, practicals, sponge bathing me) then cadets will show up.

burlazzi
17 June 2005, 09:55
The nurses in my program never show up. Thats why they will get an overall N or at best an S at camp. Yet, the army does not give a shit because there going to be a nurse.

chesshirekat
17 June 2005, 13:20
hey slut.. i am not trying to say that there arent some legitimate nurses out there. KN busts her ass to do what she can, and her battalion actually changes its lab so that the nurses can be there. the problem here is that 95% of the time, the nurses have bullshit excuses. like they are in the lounge, in workout clothes, saying that they arent gonna go to class, lab, or anything. or sleep in and miss PT. whats the reason? "I am a nurse".

all hormones and estrogen aside (Dylans uncle said that to his aunt this weekend cuz she was going crazy)... relax, get laid, and calm down ok?

I understand that completely. I know there are always slackers. There are a lot of stupid slackers who aren't nurses as well. I just don't want to be lumped into that category of being one of the shitty nurses who looks for a get out of free card for everything. I'm not like that and I never will be.

CDT_TEX
17 June 2005, 13:25
Well, first of all kitty, let me say that I watched my mother get her degree as a registered nurse while working full time as an LPN and raise three children. I know nursing is a hard major. It probably contributed to my parent's divorce.

I appreciate the fact that you are a Great American who will go to everything ROTC related you can, and won't use your major as a crutch. That's refreshing. The more you put in to "The Cadet Experience", the more you will get out of it.

Also, I'm not a nursing major because every night I pray that I get branched into combat arms, because I would rather blow people into little parts, pieces, and chunks than pick them up and sew it all back together.

---TEX

P.S. what size friendship bracelets do you and aries want to order for each other?

Associate289
17 June 2005, 13:27
stop being gay

CDT_TEX
17 June 2005, 13:43
I shall try.

---TEX

chesshirekat
17 June 2005, 14:00
P.S. what size friendship bracelets do you and aries want to order for each other?

Well, I was thinking of giving him my pinky ring to put around his penis. See, he has trouble when he reads my posts and jerks off. He just orgasms too quickly. My pinky ring would be just for perfect size for a cock ring for him and then he could prolong his pleasure while symbolizing our friendship. :)

Aries
17 June 2005, 15:24
nice comeback.

but how i prolong my pleasure and nut in your eye?

and dick size jokes? come on. im the only one here who knows how big my dick is, and the girls that i have fucked have enjoyed it quite nicely.

chesshirekat
17 June 2005, 15:31
hahahaha

If by nutting in my eye you mean your own mouth then yes, that would be quite pleasurable for you.

Associate289
17 June 2005, 15:32
thats cause they were all 8 years old, a pencil would have felt big to them...

Aries
17 June 2005, 15:34
hahahaha

If by nutting in my eye you mean your own mouth then yes, that would be quite pleasurable for you.

no. i mean your eye. i actually mean aiming for your forehead as you are on your knees in front of me and watching it drip from your forehead into your eyes.

Aries
17 June 2005, 15:34
thats cause they were all 8 years old, a pencil would have felt big to them...

shut up pole smoker

chesshirekat
17 June 2005, 15:37
hahahaha

If by nutting in my eye you mean your own mouth then yes, that would be quite pleasurable for you.

no. i mean your eye. i actually mean aiming for your forehead as you are on your knees in front of me and watching it drip from your forehead into your eyes.

Your Mom's eye? What?! You're sick.

hahaha yes, I just pulled out the oldest, dumbest comeback in the book, but it still makes me laugh. ha. ha. ha.

I expected a much worse reprocution for my comments. I was actually a little worried. You're usually way meaner.

Aries
17 June 2005, 15:41
eh. im at work.

and dick comments.. what the hell am i gonna say "no. i have a much bigger dick than that?" its not even worth the arguement. if you are really concerned with the size of it you can come over here and try to fit it into one of your holes ok?

and yeah, you lost points for the "your mom"

chesshirekat
17 June 2005, 15:49
eh. im at work.

and dick comments.. what the hell am i gonna say "no. i have a much bigger dick than that?" its not even worth the arguement. if you are really concerned with the size of it you can come over here and try to fit it into one of your holes ok?

and yeah, you lost points for the "your mom"

Yeah, I'm not actually trying to be mean. I'm just having a good time. :) And I figured I'd lose points for the mom comment. But I don't care, it's so stupid, I say it all the time. I'm really not a mean person so I don't come up with good comebacks.

And, you're always saying that I better atleast be cute. Well I'm probably not, but you can go to http://www.myspace.com/chesshirekat and I have pictures there. I don't think I look like a slut atleast.

Aries
17 June 2005, 15:57
nah. you dont look like a slut. but the girl with the curly hair on your right does. and ill give you the credit that class a's arent the most flattering of uniforms, but in the rest of the pictures cant see if you have nice tits/legs/ass or anything.

chesshirekat
17 June 2005, 16:18
Your "ho-dar" is pretty good. The girl w/ the curly hair is a slutty crackhead now. She wasn't at the time, but she is now. And yeah, I really don't have any full body shots or anything. It doesn't really matter anyways, I have muscular legs, normal tits, and a moderate size ass. I'm just an average girl. Sorry to dissappoint lol

Aries
17 June 2005, 16:21
ew.. slutty crackhead. i tend to stay away from them. if i fall asleep after a night of drunken sex, i dont wanna wake up missing my TV.

eh, we can work on that. a few grand for some tits, do some more squats.

chesshirekat
17 June 2005, 22:19
Yeah, I'm working on the squats/lunges. The tits, I dunno about, they might get in the way of my push ups. :)

Aries
17 June 2005, 22:44
nah. nothing to big. just a handful. some perky (large side of) b-cups should work.

good. let us know how the ass looks when you are done.

happylilcamper
17 June 2005, 23:58
You shock me! B- cups? your satisfied with B-cups?!? My outlook on you just completely changed!

CDT_TEX
18 June 2005, 11:30
Wow, this post is turning in to a cyber date for Aries and Kitty. I am so glad to have brought you guys together.

---TEX

Aries
18 June 2005, 13:57
well.. I am a legs man. it comes from running track. girls who ran usually had nice legs and nice asses. I can deal with small tits if the ass and the legs are good. no point in having huge tits if there is nothing for me to grab on to.

so it has to be an overall package. if they are Bs and no ass, then no chance. D's with no ass, you have a decent chance (had an ex who had Ds with no ass, i think i have told you the story about that night of fun).

dont worry, your tits are nice enough, we can work on the ass. like i said, you can do some squats as well camper.

Wes
20 June 2005, 07:05
Kat: Your boy in that pic of him in Iraq. Was that taken in Ballad? It looks exactly like the outside of the chow hall in Ballad, but now the concrete slabs are painted into unit crests.

chesshirekat
20 June 2005, 17:25
I asked him and he said it was taken in Mosul. :)

Skull6
20 June 2005, 19:53
I'm a tank man.

"TANK" can have 2 meanings--1) the most destructive thing that moves, shoots & communicates that man's ever made & 2) something that holds a volume of something, as in holding a liquid.

Now for me, I like BOTH meanings, if you get my meaning. PDT_Armataz_01_11

killernurse
20 June 2005, 20:04
okay...

Wes
20 June 2005, 22:36
My squad leader = T.W.A.T. (Tanker without a tank)

He went light infantry.

burlazzi
20 June 2005, 23:00
hahaha

kawikabd
20 June 2005, 23:36
*Preface*
I have not read any post beyond first mention of nurses from my school.

*Disclaimer*
The content of this post is made in jest and is not to be taken seriously. Certain persons may lack a sense of humor and are highly discouraged from proceeding further. If this is you or you think that even in the slightest possibility that you may be offended, disregard this post completely. If you choose to read it, however, realize this is not meant to be taken seriously. You have been warned. Proceed at your own risk.

That being said... I have no comment on whiny, good-for-nothing, bitch MSV nurses from The Florida State University. However, I will confirm that they go AWOL until commissioning. Despite all of this, they are, in fact, award winning nurses. And modest at that. They usually do not like to be publicly recognized for their achievements.

(Dammit, I will not take a hit for this twice.....haha)

Aries
20 June 2005, 23:38
ladies and gentleman, the third member of the pack once again shows up.

killernurse
20 June 2005, 23:49
That being said... I have no comment on whiny, good-for-nothing, bitch MSV nurses from The Florida State University. bwahahaha... that was beautiful. the good-for-nothing nurses give the rest of us a bad name.


and what's up with MSV nurses everywhere? I can only think of one that commissioned that didn't graduate on time from my school... and that one was done 2 months later.

Aries
21 June 2005, 00:05
shit. ours usually do an extra semester.

Wes
21 June 2005, 03:58
MSV nurses are the norm at FSU. Been that way at LEAST since 2001.