Cant wait to kill...

[Un4given]

Ya know, I just spent the last 48 hours on a battalion FTX this weekend. I initially thought, damn, this will suck balls, but turned out not too bad. The OPORD was forcasting some crude cold weather for the weekend which ended up being true, but nothing a lil snivel gear couldn't fix.
We did 3 iterations of landnav on saturday then FLRC, CTT, and Grenade Assault on Sunday. I sucked at landnav, just one of those weekends where I was just not feeling it. :( Normally I'm prolific.
Well anywho... I just cant wait to get to camp now and actually get commissioned one day! lol! I guess FTXs just have that motivating effect on me. Anyone else do any training this weekend?

[shloky]

Lanes... recon and ambush, cold, wet, and in a swampy area... miserable but learned a lot.


our PL (III) for the ambush set up the claymore like a special ed student and woulda killed the platoon... it was interesting to see the LTC and MSG convene on his ass.

:D

[MansonTheTool]

i really, really wish the Air Force did something resembling anything military. Our field days involve watching planes fly by and writing memos for Christ's sake.

[Un4given]

What brings an AF dude to AIFA?

[natedogg42]

Cuz I'm bored, I'll answer for him...he did AF ROTC for one year and then realized that it suck some big fat balls....(I tried AFROTC aswell, but decided I didn't like sucking big fat balls)..
Manson is a NROTC Marine Option....

So your question should be,

"What brings an idiot to AIFA?" :)

[HerdROTC]

I was the OPFOR OIC for our FTX. BEcause the 3's are spoon fed everything in preparation for camp, we weren't allowed to move during the movement to contact lane (we had to stay behind our tree), and on the ambush lane we couldnt engage until fire upon even if they were in plain view (like they were.) As fun as paintball is, having someone yell "simulation AT4, BANG youre all dead" on the bunker lane sorta seemed like bull shit. That's kinda like sittin at the bivouac site callin in an airstrike, ya learn nothing. All and all, it was probably good for the 3's to learn on an easy opponent, and it was a great weekend. We got a ride in a blackhawk :D

[Un4given]

Heh, I was OPFOR when I was an MSII, good times. We were at Ft. AP Hill and were pretty much just assigned an area to cover. Posted at the top of a hill behind a big fallen tree we spotted a squad of IIIs at 1-2 meter intervals... Wrong answer. It's elimination time beeeatches! lol! So we unleashed a fury 5.56mm blanks on 'em and they were lookin' around for where it was coming from. Not only did we smoke them but the instructor smoked 'em later on for that very scenario because they all got Ns. Now that I look back on stuff like that I think... And they passed LDAC? Damn, I'ma just sleep through LDAC and pass. lol

[shloky]

we got blackhawks, havent fired any blanks yet

[HerdROTC]

I think as an MS II I'll be goin to AP Hill for the Brigade FTX this spring. In the past I heard that that was blanks. That'll be a great change. We use paintball for our FTX's which is great, but having a 200rd. mag and a 30m engagment area seems a lil unrealistic. I've heard that OPFOR at Brigade is awesome so Im lookin forward to that a lot.

[Un4given]

I'm goin' to AP Hill for the Brigade FTX this spring as well. Hopefully getta meet'cha HerdROTC. I got a heads up from a MSIII that OPFOR at that FTX stays there for like 4 days and I was like... Ummmm... Grrr... I dont wanna be there all that long. lol So I opted out.

[larly3]

What's sad is most cadets do sleep through LDAC...and it shows up on YOUR evaluation. So I may have been raped in my peer evals, but I got sick of fuckers sleeping when it was my turn to be SL...

[shloky]

im gonna have to find out of the 10th brigade has an FTX.. haven't heard anything about it so far

[Un4given]

What's sad is most cadets do sleep through LDAC...and it shows up on YOUR evaluation. So I may have been raped in my peer evals, but I got sick of fuckers sleeping when it was my turn to be SL...
What do you mean sleepin' through LDAC? How do you sleep when you're performing tasks?

[HerdROTC]

We sent 2 guys and an NCO down last year for OPFOR. From what I heard, they stayed in Garrison at night. I think that applies to the MS 3's that are there to get some real experience before LDAC

[FullMetalJacket]

Thankfully I'm done with FTXs for the semester. We had a battalion FTX in September (rope bridge, rappelling, BRM, FLRC, confidence course) -- nothing too rough. We had a rough-as-hell Ranger Company FTX November 5th-7th, though. I was freezing, exhausted and starving the whole time. At least it wasn't raining though. Probably the only thing worse than being freezing, exhausted and starving is to be freezing, exhausted, starving, AND soaking wet. My ruck, for some reason, was also obnoxiously heavy, way heavier than it was for the reast of the semester. I mean, it was just disgusting how heavy they were. Like, eighty pounds. I could barely even pick mine up. Weirdest thing though, is that I'm pretty sure all I had was the packing list. My two fireteam members both had the packing list too, and yet I was easily able to pick both their rucks up at once (one in each hand) like they were nothing. Mine on the other hand, I practically needed all my strength just to put it on. Not sure why.

Kinda random, but I smoked the hell out of the APFT this morning!! I'm still patting myself on the back. It's actually my first time passing all three events. 59 pushups (brought them up by 25 from last month), 73 situps (increased by two) and something like 15:10 on the 2-mile run (not a terribly respectable time, but this is the first time I've passed the run -- I cut it down by 2:20 from last month). So, go me. :D

[Aries]

people sleepin? I had people sleeping when I was PSG. I graduated quickly from saying wake up to kicking boots as I walked by. It worked.

[neo]

I always poured canteens over their face. That went over well, especially at night at Ft Lewis.

[Un4given]

That is quite the improvement on the APFT! But my question is... You're an MSIII? Also, are you male or female? Serious questions.

[natedogg42]

Congratulations on the APFT btw, good scores.

[shloky]

do we have an updated apft score thread here somewhere?

[CDThardass]

I read the title of this message and am completely taken back.... you guys who say this have no idea what it would be like to pull the trigger 10 m. from another man and watch him die. have any of you had to deal with your friend come back, live in your house, and hear him wake up screaming from the night mares of war. he had a few comfrimed kills over there in Iraq with one of our airborne units, he is one of the strongest moral people i know and he read this title and was absolutly pissed beyond recongition. as he says "just wait for your 12 - 18 month deployments to the sand box, not seeing your family but once every few months, dealing with that shit, good luck" i am not afriad to serve, to do my duty, but the one thing i am not looking forward to is coming back from war and sorting that stuff out. i do not know how i will react after the fact if i kill the enemy, but i am not looking forward to it. i will do my duty though, do not question that.

[CDThardass]

well, i guess i was speaking with my heart and not with my reading eyes, the title of this stuff is wrong, although i do agree with the posts them selves, i say change the title so i dont have to jump to conclusions here.

[MansonTheTool]

natedogg: cancel that...I'm back to AF. They bought me...what can I say. I had my scholarship just sitting up there waiting to be activated. If anything I should have switched to Army. And Pershing Rifles brought me to AIFA.

[Un4given]

well, i guess i was speaking with my heart and not with my reading eyes, the title of this stuff is wrong, although i do agree with the posts them selves, i say change the title so i dont have to jump to conclusions here.

Understandable. Ya know, if all goes well I wont have to see a face of a single person I send to the grave... 30mm from several hundred meters away in a longbow, cant beat that. ;)

[CDThardass]

yea i wanted to be a tanker, but im color blind, and i hate walking so that conceles out the rest of the combat arms with me not liking walking and being color blind, so now im working on my GPA and trying to get into law school and goin JAG, helping you boys get out of your "test fires"

[natedogg42]

Manson, how could you? I don't want to hear excuses.

CDTHardass...While combat and deployment to negatively effect/affect/whatever a lot of people (I think its effect. Fuck the English language)...I have known plenty of people that are not traumatized by nightmares and things like that. I do not really get homesick much at all, I honestly don't think I would mind deployment, I am currently single...

Besides it's not hard to kill an enemy that acts like an animal to begin with.

I know, haven't been there so nothing I say is of any importance but...I'm right:P

[FullMetalJacket]

That is quite the improvement on the APFT! But my question is... You're an MSIII? Also, are you male or female? Serious questions.

Male MSII.

[CDThardass]

M/ MS3

[natedogg42]

How did you improve so much with your APFT? How much running and everything did you do that month?

[FullMetalJacket]

How did you improve so much with your APFT? How much running and everything did you do that month?

Sure wasn't easy. In addition to going to the regular battalion PTs three times a week and Ranger Company twice a week, I'd run about four miles every other day on my own. The PMS gave me a pretty solid pushup program that definitely saved my ass. It has a chart that tells you how many of everything you need to do. Most of the time I would do three sets -- each set includes 20 regular pushups, nine close-hand or diamond pushups, and nine widearm pushups. Take about a minute's rest between each set. Do the sets every other day, and after every three workouts, add 3 regular pushups and 1 close-hand and 1 widearm pushup to each set.

Might not sound like much, but it worked for me. I nearly doubled my APFT pushup count. I had totally immaculate form, too. An EIB-qualified Army Ranger graded me, and didn't correct one of my pushups.

[natedogg42]

:( I start tomorrow....I really want to get in shape for next quarter, come back totally different after winter break...

Oh, and, as of 10pm tonight...

IM DONE WITH MY FUCKING FINALS, YOU CAN ALL KISS ME ASS, BREAK HAS BEGUN...SUCK IT, SUCK IT, SUCK IT


btw, I think I failed my stats final...


I'll use this oppurtunity to bitch and moan....

I totally fucked up a final for a calc class (didnt study/go to the last 3 weeks of class) last spring, so I retook the class (got a D, despite As on all tests (I must have REALLY fucked up the final)) freshman can retake a class and have the other one totally dropped ok...

We went through 5 chapters last time...this time, my diff. teacher went through like 2.5, and gave out all these rediculous bonus points on the final, and wrote half the answers on the board...made it a 40 minute test.....for instance, he made the first 5 questions (the easiest) worth a bonus .5 onto our gpa in the class (i.e, if I had a 3.5, i get a 4.0 in the class)...

And all kinds of other stuff. Where the fuck was he when I took the class the first time...

Oh he also scrapped the "daily quizzes and homework" grade and gave us all 20/20 for this (1/5 of our grade overrall)...

[HerdROTC]

I know that Sgt!!!! He was our Ranger evaluator guy. He was a tough mother

[Un4given]

How did you improve so much with your APFT? How much running and everything did you do that month?

Sure wasn't easy. In addition to going to the regular battalion PTs three times a week and Ranger Company twice a week, I'd run about four miles every other day on my own. The PMS gave me a pretty solid pushup program that definitely saved my ass. It has a chart that tells you how many of everything you need to do. Most of the time I would do three sets -- each set includes 20 regular pushups, nine close-hand or diamond pushups, and nine widearm pushups. Take about a minute's rest between each set. Do the sets every other day, and after every three workouts, add 3 regular pushups and 1 close-hand and 1 widearm pushup to each set.

Might not sound like much, but it worked for me. I nearly doubled my APFT pushup count. I had totally immaculate form, too. An EIB-qualified Army Ranger graded me, and didn't correct one of my pushups.

And an EIB-qualification means...? lol Good job though dude!

[FullMetalJacket]

How did you improve so much with your APFT? How much running and everything did you do that month?

Sure wasn't easy. In addition to going to the regular battalion PTs three times a week and Ranger Company twice a week, I'd run about four miles every other day on my own. The PMS gave me a pretty solid pushup program that definitely saved my ass. It has a chart that tells you how many of everything you need to do. Most of the time I would do three sets -- each set includes 20 regular pushups, nine close-hand or diamond pushups, and nine widearm pushups. Take about a minute's rest between each set. Do the sets every other day, and after every three workouts, add 3 regular pushups and 1 close-hand and 1 widearm pushup to each set.

Might not sound like much, but it worked for me. I nearly doubled my APFT pushup count. I had totally immaculate form, too. An EIB-qualified Army Ranger graded me, and didn't correct one of my pushups.

And an EIB-qualification means...? lol Good job though dude!

EIB = expert infantry badge. So he's one tough, no-nonsense mother. ;)

[Un4given]

See why I'm not goin' the infantry route. ;) lol
No, I just hate running. Run a 13:10 2-mile, cant quite get under that 13:00, but still hate running with a passion.

[FullMetalJacket]

See why I'm not goin' the infantry route. ;) lol
No, I just hate running. Run a 13:10 2-mile, cant quite get under that 13:00, but still hate running with a passion.

As do I. I would rather do pushups for like two hours than run for even thirty minutes. But in the past year I've gotten my run from 25-something to 15:10. (Seriously, this time a year ago I literally HAD to stop and walk, because my lungs couldn't take in enough air for me to run. It's taken me like a whole year of running to make up for my lack of training as a kid.) But if I dropped my run by two minutes in this past month alone...if I can keep that up every month, I'll be maxing in no time. Ditto for the pushups.

[HerdROTC]

Im pretty much the same way. I'll ruck forever (I actually get some sorta sick enjoyment out of it), but when it comes to runnin 6 miles, it's torture. Im also one of those people that prefers to do my pushups with a really narrow base. I have really long arms, but for some reason, I always crank out my first minutes worth totally close hand. I think Im just a freak or somethin when it comes to PT

[natedogg42]

some guy was telling me about a dude in his company or platoon or whatever they have at basic...

He could only do like 10 pushups when he got in there...so, the drill instructor made him max on pushups every 30 minutes while he was at basic(in addition to doing what everyone else did)...in 3-4 weeks, he was maxing the pushup category

[FullMetalJacket]

He could only do like 10 pushups when he got in there...so, the drill instructor made him max on pushups every 30 minutes while he was at basic(in addition to doing what everyone else did)...in 3-4 weeks, he was maxing the pushup category

How's that even possible? If ten is the most he can do, how can he suddenly crank out 70 every half hour?

[shloky]

made him max out = work till muscle failure

[Un4given]

made him max out = work till muscle failure

That's what I was concluding, muscle failure.
When I got into ROTC I couldn't do situps. So a Major told me to do say, 200 situps a night. First do situps until muscle failure. Say that's around 50. Take a minute break, do them again until failure. Say that's 40, so now you're at 90. Then do it again until failure and keep doing it until it added up to 200 total. Or some number. Worked for me. :D

[natedogg42]

Yeah, thats what I meant, HIS MAX...