Should the U.N. be dissolved?

[Plastic Yank]

I really think it's beyond all usefullness now. It may have served a purpose back in the '50s, but nowadays it's really just a mouthpeice for Planned Parenthood and those freaks in the Hague.

::TG Edit cuz TG da man::

::TG Edit again cuz TG a bad speller::

[TheTokenGook]

you mean dissolved?

[Plastic Yank]

Crap!!

Yes, I meant dissolved!! ARRRRRRRRRRRGGG!!!!

[Plastic Yank]

Could I get a mod to change the title?

[Ezmartini]

The UN is pretty worthless nowadays. The make resolutions, fail to enforce them, complain about Sudan, fail to do anything about it.

[TheTokenGook]

Could I get a mod to change the title?
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and btw, it sounded like a poll, so I added one

[Ezmartini]

You spelled "dissolve" wrong

[TheTokenGook]

установленный распутник матери

*TG having way too much fun with free translation and talking in 3rd person*

[natedogg42]

The UN calls the genocide in Sudan "ethnic cleansing" because if they called it genocide, it would mean that they would have to do something about it (seriously, it was founded to basically stop the holocaust from happening to someone else...but they only have to act if it is G E N O C I D E...therefore, when they are called upon to stop with their useless talk and actually enforce anything, they just come up with another name for it and let hundreds of thousands of black Africans die at the hands of Arab Muslim militia....

OH but this organization is the model of a perfect government....can anyone say "Oil for Kickbacks?"

[Punk]

The UN calls the genocide in Sudan "ethnic cleansing" because if they called it genocide, it would mean that they would have to do something about it (seriously, it was founded to basically stop the holocaust from happening to someone else...but they only have to act if it is G E N O C I D E...therefore, when they are called upon to stop with their useless talk and actually enforce anything, they just come up with another name for it and let hundreds of thousands of black Africans die at the hands of Arab Muslim militia....

What they mean is that it’s only "ethnic cleansing" if it’s the Muslims killing Christians. Like they won't bother about Albanians killing Serbs and blowing 1,000 year old churches, but turn it around and suddenly it's a "Major humanitarian crisis".

[TheTokenGook]

UN sucks, fuck 'em

[natedogg42]

Who the fuck voted no?

Oh, and yeah...definetley should have given Slobadon a medal or at least left him alone for dealing with a terrorist insurgency in an effective manner...

If Billy Klinton didn't get caught with his pants down, he wouldn't have bombed the enemy of our enemy....

btw, FUCKING UN...

[Punk]

S***. Kofi Annan and his pals have their heads stuck so far up their ass's that they have to open their mouths to look around.

[natedogg42]

Now we have 3 pussies hiding...

"Countries don't have alliances, they have interests." - Kissinger

[Plastic Yank]

Now we have 3 pussies hiding...

Such a reaction betokens a lack of imagination. :lol:

[Aries]

Nate: I am shocked you didn't immediatly say "Dammit Aries why you voting like that"

seriously lacking imagination.

[natedogg42]

STFU Aries, why are you voting like that?

[Plastic Yank]

Such a reaction betokens a lack of imagination. :lol:

Sorry 'bout that Nate. I thought I was responding to something other than what I was responding to. :|

[Aries]

once again.. from the left:

ok. the UN needs to be there. but they need to step up their shit. I wish we wouldve had a mandate to go into Iraq, but the President saw it necessary to act without it. So we did, Saddam is out, and we are there. Now its time for the UN to take over and rebuild. its not our job to do this. We should be a strong part of it, but at the same time it should not just be us over there. there are times when the UN is good, times when its not. Times when the Rebublican/Democrat parties are good. times when they are not. tis life.

[natedogg42]

I could count the times the UN has proven useful on my fucking middle finger...

[neo]

I have to go with Aries on this one as a neo-liberalist in the realm of international relations.

[Holt]

the UN only works if every country with clout agrees to do something, and honestly, how often is that? It needs an overhall, but isnt due for the scrapheap

[Gambit]

My $0.02: more often than not, it's better to rebuild what you have than clear it out and start over. P/Rs, STFU, we didnt have anything in the first place. ;) But back on topic: like it or not, the UN is a huge collection of nations, and it would be harder to rebuild what it has than can it for what it doesn't have. Unfortunately, we need some drastic changes for it to become relevant again.

[Punk]

Well they need to stop acting like their own holier-then-thou independent group. They were formed by the U.S. (By the US!!!) after WW2, their based in New York, if they’re going to be so “No, you can’t do that” to the US then maybe they should be moved to France and the European Union they adore so much.

[killernurse]

Gee was that a crack on France? Better get on that, Gambit.

[Punk]

Gee was that a crack on France? Better get on that, Gambit.

I don't mean France in particular, just the general area of Europe.

[natedogg42]

The UN is run by corrupt officials.

The general assembly has no power.

The security council which technically does have power is only comprised of 15 nations with the 5 permanent ones (US, UK, China, France, Russia)...

The 5 nations have a permanent veto...that's wonderful. That's like having a country with 5 fucking presidents. We hardly get shit done with one, it gets infinetely harder with 5 to get anything done.

The US sits at the same level in the Security Council as does these 4 countries while the US spends over twice as much on their military (the world's police force) as the rest of the permanent members of the security council combined.

It wouldn't make sense to give Rhode Island 55 electoral votes just so that it could compete with California...if you see where I'm going.

The only way anything in the UN can get done is if the big 5 agree on EVERYTHING. Countries that are so completely different from one another will almost NEVER agree on everything because countries have INTERESTS to take care of not. As much as everyone would like to think the UN is some holy organization that tries to safeguard the world, it is just a collection of nations trying to do what is in each of their interests...

[TheTokenGook]

The US sits at the same level in the Security Council as does these 4 countries while the US spends over twice as much on their military (the world's police force) as the rest of the permanent members of the security council combined.
think we also provide 20% or so of the UN's budget

[Gambit]

Gee was that a crack on France? Better get on that, Gambit.

I don't mean France in particular, just the general area of Europe.

Why overreact, KN, when you can do it for me? Plus, he's so quick to fix himself, I'm really not worried... ;)

[Punk]

Ha! For all you know I could live in France.

[TheTokenGook]

nah, you probably live in Plastic Yank's closet or something

[Gambit]

Eh... you don't have enough of an accent. Besides, I'm TheTokenFrog around here, you can't one up me on that. ;)

[killernurse]

Why overreact, KN, when you can do it for me? Plus, he's so quick to fix himself, I'm really not worried... Me? I never overreact. ;) But he is a bit of a surrender monkey... maybe he is French after all. (with love, kn)

[natedogg42]

he is a bit of a surrender monkey... maybe he is French after all

I need a girl like that...I should have known that when I met my last girlfriend and one of the first things she said was "I want to work for the UN" and I said "I want to blow it up"...should have been an indicator of things to come...

Oh, and Gambit... RRRRRRRRRBIT

[TheTokenGook]

great pic :lol:
http://home.pacbell.net/skyzot/images/french_frog.jpg

[TheTokenGook]

alright, who voted that they were a dork?

[Punk]

WhyMe? I never overreact. ;) But he is a bit of a surrender monkey... maybe he is French after all. (with love, kn)

A WHAT?!?!!?! :evil: :evil: :evil: :x :evil: :evil: :evil: :x :x :x :x

[Punk]

Btw, only Canadians and Spaniards are surrender monkeys.

[TheTokenGook]

The French are the original surrender monkeys
Never heard anything about Canada and Spain

[Punk]

The French are the original surrender monkeys
Never heard anything about Canada and Spain

Remeber the train bombing in Spain last year?

I'll get to the others later.

[neo]

France still takes the cake on this one. God damn frogs.

[Gambit]

*bows*

[Aries]

so there was a brit at the game the other day.. i gave him some of my jack and coke.. we were bullshitting.. funny dude.. we disagreed on a few things about American policy and such, but he has his right to state whatever opinion he wants. i turned to him and said: "we can disagree on a lot of things, but the french still suck".

things were good after that.

[neo]

The hatred for the french... The ties that bind the anglo-saxon world

[Gambit]

Funny, the Brits loved me last week when I visited...

[killernurse]

babe, you're only half-frog remember? and did you make a point everywhere you went to say "Hi, I'm Gambit and I'm half French. Do you like me?" 'cus if so, I'm gonna laugh.

[Gambit]

Well, people did wonder how I got out of the airport so fast... gotta love the short lines at passport control for locals. ;)

[TheTokenGook]

"we can disagree on a lot of things, but the french still suck".

things were good after that.

ah yes, is there any country who wouldn't agree to that? Other than Iraq?